Wednesday, June 24, 2009



PZ Mxyzptlk is psychic!

No sooner does PZ suggest, in response to whining by Ken Ham, that, for the price of a plane ticket, he'd come and personally tour Ham's "museum," along with a small group of "mouthy, obnoxious, and culturally prominent godless scientists" and let Ham point out the supposed misconceptions PZ has about the place.

Mere hours later comes word of six dozen paleontologists who visited the museum today.

"The real purpose of the museum visit is to give some of my colleagues an opportunity to sense how they're being portrayed," said Arnold Miller, a professor of paleontology at the University of Cincinnati, which is hosting the conference. "They're being demonized, I feel, in this museum as people who are responsible for all the ills of society."

The reviews were not kind:

"It's like a theme park, but the problem is it masquerades as truth," said Derek Briggs, a Yale University paleontologist. ...

"Faith is one thing," said Mark Terry, a high school science teacher from Seattle, "but when it comes to their science statements, they're completely off the wall."

And the defense was lame:

David Menton, a cell biology professor and researcher with Answers In Genesis, which founded the museum, made no apologies for the fact that the museum's teachings are rooted in the Old Testament. He insists they rely on largely the same facts scientists use, just with a starting point millions of years later. Anything before that can't really be proven by science anyway, he says. ...

He defended the displays that argue people and dinosaurs are contemporaries, including one at the museum entrance that show two young girls playing in a field near a dinosaur.

"I'm not saying dinosaurs and man frequently hobnobbed," Menton said. "I live on Earth at the same time as grizzly bears, but if I could stay as far away from grizzly bears, that suits me fine."

I distinctly remember reading stories of grizzly bears killing people. You'd figure if a T. Rex took out a village or two, it might get a mention in the Bible.

"And ... there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
And he ... cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two Tyrannosaurus rex out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them."

Oh. My bad; it was she-bears.
Nah, T. Rex was a gentle critter who ate coconuts. Had a nice smile, too.
Oh. My bad; it was she-bears.

But that explains why Menton is a-scared of grizzlies.
I thought that all nature was harmless before the Fall,
so that kids could play with T. rex. It sounds like Menton is not in line with the correct view.

Tom S.
I don't think there actually were any kids before the Fall. I don't even think there was a Fall, for that matter.

I think they arrive at the Fall theory from scientifical type analysis of Biblical debris or something like that, if I'm not mistaken.
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