Friday, September 21, 2012
Godly Is as Godly Does
It seems that only some high school football teams in Texas are favored by god.
As reported by the blog of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, Wall of Separation
The cheerleaders at Kountze High School in Kountze, Texas, (about 90 miles northeast of Houston) had been using banners with Bible verses to motivate the football team during games. ...For once, the school administrators did the right thing and banned the practice. However, a local judge has issued a temporary restraining order allowing the cheerleaders to continue for 14 days. It's a bit of an interesting legal question at the intersection of student initiated prayer versus official prayer but the cheerleaders are on the field as representatives of the school. If they wanted to hold up the banners in the stands as spectators, that might well be a different thing. But the school, it seems to me, can't allow them on the field as participants and also allow them to proselytize.
Examples of signs included: "But thanks be to God, which gives us victory through our Lord Jesus Christ," "I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me" and "If God be for us who can be against us?" ...
KBTV noted that the Kountze Lions are undefeated so far this season. The cheerleaders seem to think that the signs inspired the players to victory.
But two things struck me. First of all, aren't those kids from other Texas high schools also praying? Maybe its just that they're not as big and as fast as the present team from Kountze. And, if next year the Kountze team starts losing, will they blame it on the town's lack of faith or, worse, on God?
But there is always this:
"They weren't getting very fired up by 'Kill the Cougars,' so if we say 'you have power, God gives you the strength,' I mean, that makes me want to do good," Ashton Jennings, a Kountze cheerleader, told the TV station.Somewhere there is a serious disconnect in these kids.
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1) This is the kind of thing that forces me to reread Lincoln's Second Inaugural to cleanse my thoughts.
2) Having graduated a Texas high school, I am not one bit surprised that the cheerleaders are holding up bible verses. But now I'm wondering about the drill team and why they aren't holding up scripture verses too -- are they a pack of godless atheists?! I am also wondering if the drill team is called the "Lionettes" but I already googled Lincoln's Second Inaugural and this is a Friday.
-- pew sitter
2) Having graduated a Texas high school, I am not one bit surprised that the cheerleaders are holding up bible verses. But now I'm wondering about the drill team and why they aren't holding up scripture verses too -- are they a pack of godless atheists?! I am also wondering if the drill team is called the "Lionettes" but I already googled Lincoln's Second Inaugural and this is a Friday.
-- pew sitter
A fine antidote.
Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully.
Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully.
Isn't it an offense to fix the result of a football match, whether done by humans or a deity, in which case the cheerleaders could be guilty of conspiring to commit an offense and of aiding and abetting the commission of said offense?
Isn't it an offense to fix the result of a football match, whether done by humans or a deity, in which case the cheerleaders could be guilty of conspiring to commit an offense and of aiding and abetting the commission of said offense?
Except no one thinks it really works, not even these cheerleaders. Push come to shove, they don't blame god when they lose and while they may pay lip service to god when they win, they still throw accolades (and many other favors, especially by cheerleaders) at the players, who everyone knows are the ones who makes the difference.
It really is just is a social glue "strategy" (if we can grace it with that term) to express the majority communities values.
Except no one thinks it really works, not even these cheerleaders. Push come to shove, they don't blame god when they lose and while they may pay lip service to god when they win, they still throw accolades (and many other favors, especially by cheerleaders) at the players, who everyone knows are the ones who makes the difference.
It really is just is a social glue "strategy" (if we can grace it with that term) to express the majority communities values.
Dang, Ian H. Spedding. Now I'm wondering if I am guilty of conspiring to fix an election by invoking the aid of my deity.
-- conscience-stricken pew sitter ("Pleeeeeeeze God let my candidate win")
-- conscience-stricken pew sitter ("Pleeeeeeeze God let my candidate win")
It just made me think of the losing team suing on the grounds that the winners had fixed the game. That reminded me of that very entertaining Billy Connolly movie The Man Who Sued God which led me to look up real cases of people who'd attempted to sue God in the courts - which wasn't very encouraging.
Seriously?!??!
People have attempted to sue God? Well, it's not like it's not understandable sometimes, but still -- !
Thank you for the best laugh I've had all week.
I'll have to see that movie.
-- pew sitter
People have attempted to sue God? Well, it's not like it's not understandable sometimes, but still -- !
Thank you for the best laugh I've had all week.
I'll have to see that movie.
-- pew sitter
Seriously. Although I'm guessing that the lawyers and judges involved secretly find them a sort of light relief from all the boring or really bad stuff they mostly have to deal with.
I think you'll like the movie. The trailer's on YouTube.
I think you'll like the movie. The trailer's on YouTube.
"Push come to shove, they don't blame god when they lose ..."
I vaguely recall a comedy bit with a football player being interviewed after a losing game where he's saying 'Yeah, it was a close game and we'd have won if Jesus didn't make me fumble on the one yard line.'
I vaguely recall a comedy bit with a football player being interviewed after a losing game where he's saying 'Yeah, it was a close game and we'd have won if Jesus didn't make me fumble on the one yard line.'
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